President Trump and Dr. Fauci clash over CDC’s coronavirus death tally

Dr. Andrew Noymer, a professor of public health at the University of California, Irvine, says the amount of excess mortality in the United States evidences the severity of the coronavirus pandemic regardless of disagreements on how to tally COVID-19 deaths. The latest excess mortality number for the United States is 19%, meaning 19% more people died of all causes in 2020 compared to an average of the previous five years, according to Our World In Data. “You can play all the games you want with the causes of death, but it doesn’t change the alive or dead number,” Noymer said.